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Grumpy Owly
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:16:00 -
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Alia Gon'die wrote:Vile rat wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:What a bunch of manure. After reading the first paragraph I knew you wrote a biased prejudiced hypocritical blog filled with half truths and generalizations of real life examples, completely side stepping the issue with sensationalized melodramatic remarks. Point in fact : In real life, there is no limit on amount of Allied forces an entity can have, no participation time limit nor is there an extra cost incurred for having said Allies.
You're paying concord for the right to have your personal grudge with an alliance/corp ignored by them for a set period of time. Basically bribing the cops to look the other way. Why should they accept more looking away than they are paid for?
Maybe since if your looking for a realism argument, GSF is notorised by Concord as being the same organisation that used publicised terrosit tactics on Jita traffic in numbers which was totally against their mandate? 
Would be interesting to perhaps consider the average security value of an organisation and have war dec metrics applied in correlation to them. More expensive for criminals as a result. And whilst I recognise that null organisations arent effected by this mechanic on their home ground and wouldn't be potentially recognised as an issue, it might go some way as to determining Concord opinion to the costings associated with the task they have to achieve.
I mean if your going for a realism debate might be wise to apply mechanics in keeping with criminal reputations as a result?
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Posted - 2012.06.14 11:21:00 -
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Hauling Hal wrote:I must be living in a parrellel game universe to the OP:
Lots of people use in-game mechanics to shoot defenceless targets. Working as intended.
Lots of people use in-game mechanics to shoot powerful targets. Not working as intended.
You can see why this sort of reaction from CCP will generate conspiracy theories, as it looks like you need to have friends in the right places to get things done.
tl/dr Apparently, Goons are the new old-Bob.
Sand only exists in the GSF corner of the sandbox, didnt you get the memo?
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:31:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Sand only exists in the GSF corner of the sandbox, didnt you get the memo? I think we can find a sizeable sandbox in your undergarments, what with the constant whinging from your side every time there's a thread about goons (i.e. every thread).
Which goes a long way to as seeing an attempt to silence someone elses opinion and trying to control the sand further perhaps?
Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp under these new mechanics as they don't like the idea of any other developments that are contrary to the controlling of any sand?
And yet you champion the rights of other entities to have a voice? So many double standards over sand, I'm kind of losing track of the hypocrasy curve here.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 12:35:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp We've decced you?
Yep, obviously too much of a threat to GSF security,
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:07:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Sand only exists in the GSF corner of the sandbox, didnt you get the memo? I think we can find a sizeable sandbox in your undergarments, what with the constant whinging from your side every time there's a thread about goons (i.e. every thread). Which goes a long way to as seeing an attempt to silence someone elses opinion and trying to control the sand further perhaps? Might be the reason why such a large organisation like GSF have decided to war decced my 3 man corp under these new mechanics as they don't like the idea of any other developments that are contrary to the controlling of any sand? And yet you champion the rights of other entities to have a voice? So many double standards over sand, I'm kind of losing track of the hypocrasy here. You are free to say whatever you want. GSF is also free to wardec whoever we want. Sounds like everyone has a lot of freedom here
Except that for the reason your using war decs purely to censor opposition to your gameplay mechanic choices you favour as a serious meta influence as opposed to it really being more used for IG political reasons. As really why would a 3 man corp in high sec be a threat to GSF?
I'm certainly not the only person vocal about anti-goon politics either, so there has to be a reason as to why I'm being given this special consideration. As since my rest from forum posting the only real efforts I've been making are for pro bounty hunting rhetoric, which might slight the suicide ganker as a result, but has to if I'm going to make any emphasis and reasoning for my comments. It hasn't been anti-goon at all in sentiment other than obviously having parallel interests.
In fact the necessity for criminal behaviour is required for the relative need to apply BH in the first place, so there is a symbiotic relationship. And I have always promoted in my arguments that I'm not against gaming mechanics like suicide ganking, only that it needs its counters like BH to make the mechanics relevant to all concerned. The fact of emphasising things like the GSF sponsored events like Hulkageddon in my examples should allow me to use those initiatives as examples to explore the obvious need to have BH repaired without it being seen as a political effort purely against GSF.
Otherwise it could be easily misconstrued or interpreted that you are therefore trying to "muscle" opinions by deccing any individuals supporting features you don't want to see come to fruition. That is hardly being objective to issues like game development as opposed to a real political cause. Which is the potential criticism your trying to avoid through these kind of "conspiracy" elements, as you are labelling them, on other features.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:21:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Except that for the reason your using war decs purely to censor opposition to your gameplay mechanic choices you favour as a serious meta influence as opposed to it really being more used for IG political reasons. How exactly is a war dec used to "censor opposition"? Honestly, being decced isn't stopping anyone from posting **** on the forums. 
Well obviously its not as I am still posting regardless. That doesn't deny the orignial intention for the application of the dec though.
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:26:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Well obviously its not as I am still posting regardless. That doesn't deny the orignial intention for the application of the dec though. The intention was most likely something like: "Oh look, some shitposter on the internet that we can **** with in a game!" not "We must silence our critics!"
So why isnt the same treatment applied to all individuals then the Goons interpret in a similar way?
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Posted - 2012.06.14 14:42:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:So why isnt the same treatment applied to all individuals then the Goons interpret in a similar way? I would assume it has something to do with gravitas.
Not sure wether I should take it a compliment as a result of that comment?
What I do hope however is that CCP observe just how much of the intentions by large power blocs use these kind of methods to attempt to control gaming development though. As anyone with lesser convictions might simply cave in under such kind of special "attention".
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